Spotify's Rogan Pains (309)

The Spotify/Joe Rogan situation seems to be gaining momentum as more musicians and podcasters dump the platform for Apple pastures.

Wordle wiggles seven figures out of the New York Times, while product analytics company Pendo went out and purchased themselves a media company as the M&A market heats up.

In rants and raves, Robert complains yet again about zero-party data. Joe comments on the early nature of NFTs, and begs Mark Ritson for more curiosity.

Robert's book recommendation: The Opposable Mind by Roger Martin.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:34 NFL Highlights

08:34 Robert Gives Show Outline

10:25 More Musicians and Podcasters Leave Spotify Over Joe Rogan Controversy 

29:41 New York Times Buys Wordle for Seven Figures 

40:02 Pendo Bought a Media Company

49:14 Robert Rants about Zero-Party Data 

56:44 Joe talks NFTs early findings

58:46 Mark Ritson says NFTs are a “fad”

01:09:07 Life Updates; Super Bowl Predictions; Sun in LA

01:10:53 Outro

Quotes:

Joe: “How much are we going to go forward and say, ‘Oh, this one needs to be monitored. This one needs that parental advisory sticker on it, and this one doesn’t.’ Who’s going to make that subjective decision? You want somebody like Mark Zuckerberg to do that?” (15:49)

Robert: “There’s a difference between editing and censorship. That’s the real difference here. They [Spotify] have a responsibility here.” (20:39)

Joe: “[Wordle founder] is a good example of someone who says 'look I want to make a really good game. I want to keep it going well. Once it started I wanted people to love it, share it,' and didn’t monetize early and gets a pay off because of it.”

Robert: “That is just amazing to me a company like the NY Times can move that quickly… You have got to be prepared to move this quickly. This is the pace that content marketing and marketing work these days.” (35:44)

Joe: “Events and print magazines are going to be the target for brands in 2022/ 2023.”(41:42)